Again, good looking out from toad:
So the story on this place as far as I know- 42 Arch had families in it since 04- went vacant around December 08 or January of this year I think. I noticed kids going to the back in March, but thought they were just cutting through to Wilson St. Should have known better. Its still unmolested from the front, but the backside reveals what really has been going on…
Stump also cruised the backside and gave a peek in the open doorways—this house is done.
Video from the ProJo:
Nearby Houses:
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This place burned down last night.
http://newsblog.projo.com/2009/06/ready-for-edit-20.html
Awesome, I left for the weekend and came back to this…. As mentioned, I’ve seen people going in and out of this for weeks. I called the police a few times when it was vans or cars pulling in to try to prevent copper theft, but I suppose that was in vain, most of the kids in the neighborhood have become familiar with this place’s interior. The problem really is the children, they just are bored out of their minds, their parents aren’t around or don’t want to deal with them, so the kids are just trying to find something to do i.e. break windows, explore empty houses and quite possibly burn them down. Would not surprise me at all, especially with all the fireworks appearing now. Now I get to see how long I will live with this out my front door.
Along with poor across-the-way toad, the next door neighbor at 44 Arch was none too pleased with this sight. “Somebody going in there again?” he asked.
Another neighbor wondered if he was home at the time of last night’s blaze.
“No, I came home when it was shooting out the windows. I thought I was going to be homeless too.”
Luckily, 44 Arch appeared unscathed, though two cars in the driveway were hit with a moderate amount of debris, still wet from the fire hoses.
The policewoman parked nearby right as just as a photographer was snapping a few pictures. Passing by to check on the place, she toiled on the stoop for five minutes—on the phone with the last night’s sergeant.
“The place is just wide open. Anyone can just walk right in…yeah, I’m standing right here.”
She hung up and darted out of the photographer’s way. By that time, he was finished, hand propped on the hydrant across the street, also still wet.
“What happens now?” said the cameraman, just moments home, fresh from work.
“I don’t know,” she said. “It was supposed to be boarded last night. They said they were going to send somebody out to take care of it. You know. Guy in a truck. Guess I gotta wait for ‘em.”
The photographer spoke of the neighbor next door, and the neighbor named toad, and pointed in the direction of his own home, and the homes of other nearby West End neighbors, all who’ve contacted the city in various ways, specifically about this house, and specifically about it being unsecured.
“Thom Deller? Who’s that?” she asked. The photographer actually liked the police woman, a 12 year veteran of the force, didn’t know the city’s planning department director, a member of the mayor’s cabinet.
“That’s the neighbors’ point of contact with the city.” he said. “And who told the neighbors the city was concerned with vacant properties. And who oversees the Department of Inspections and Standards, and its absent-to-the-neighbors director Shelia Barrett—you know, the guys who were supposed to come out and board this place when the neighbors first complained.”
The policewoman inquired more about the group of neighbors. The photographer gave her a card bearing the fading name of a city and the picture of a burned out house on the back.
“I know that place. That’s Kossuth St. Hyat and Kossuth. All those places are boarded up. Real bad over there. I used to work that beat.”
She pointed to the houses on the card, one by one, and rattled off their addresses in total. Five vacants, all lined up.
She wanted to follow up with the photographer. She peered around the street, locating the cached map inside her brain, searching for the exact address.
“Lets see, we’re at about…what’s this place?”
42 Arch Street, Providence, Rhode Island.
I think we are starting to feel the cutting edge of a city going broke. “Boarding” costs money.
still unsecured and still surrounded by trash, doors open regularly and we close them. I am going to board it myself.
Dag toad, I’m sorry to hear that. Call the Stump if you want a hand.
city got this boarded & cleaned up this weekend- office of neighborhood services is who can help with this kind of thing for anyone else trying to deal with a similar problem: http://www.providenceri.com/ons/index.php
A sad sidenote, 48-50 Arch was just foreclosed. The tenants came home from shopping and found that someone has taken the boiler out and stripped some copper pipes out. So now we face another vacant, vandalized home and the families not receiving any of the protections from both the City and Federal law for tenants in foreclosed homes.
I have reached out to the lender but no news right now.
great…
“So now we face another vacant, vandalized home and the families not receiving any of the protections from both the City and Federal law for tenants in foreclosed homes.”
It is time we stop expecting the government to “take care of us”. Those are the same sort of people who took 5 days to get water to the stadium in New Orleans.
The foreclosure process is a mess, the fact that property is left vacant and unattended and therefore is vandalized and stripped isn’t effective. If there are tenants in a property, they should continue to pay rent to the bank and keep the home occupied. I’m guessing that the furnace was stripped by the owner to try to recoup some of the investment he put into those properties (they were completely renovated a few years ago). Should be laws to punish this sort of behavior.
The foreclosure process is a mess, the fact that property is left vacant and unattended and therefore is vandalized and stripped isn’t effective. If there are tenants in a property, they should continue to pay rent to the bank and keep the home occupied.
I know of several instances (in Boston) where the bank allowed the owners to stay in 3 deckers and pay rent until it was sold. They also paid them a “bonus” for moving costs when they moved out.
I’m guessing that the furnace was stripped by the owner to try to recoup some of the investment he put into those properties (they were completely renovated a few years ago). Should be laws to punish this sort of behavior.
I suspect you are right about the owner. There are laws about this, the furnace belongs to the bank and it is theft. Law is like a wheelbarrow, if no one pushes it, it doesn’t go anywhere. There is a problem about wittnesses and police departments don’t see themselves as “collection agencies” (they love that phrase).
“The foreclosure process is a mess, the fact that property is left vacant and unattended and therefore is vandalized and stripped isn’t effective.”
Usually it is effective, but assumes some demand for the property. Currently there are all sorts of “back room” problems. Most mortgages are insured and there are hoops to recover the insurance. I suspect many banks are waiting for the “bail out” of “toxic mortgages”. Barney Frank keeps hinting that the taxpayers will buy out the lenders.
Worse, for so many years it was possible for anyone “who could fog a mirror” (banker’s phrase) to get a mortgage. These mortgages were unrelated to actual values. So, “values” soared. This went on for so long that people began to believe these were the actual “values”. No one is willing to accept it was a “bubble” (read the history of the “Tulip Mania”). Most of the properties I see here have a “real value” of $20-50,000. I arrive at that by estimating renovation costs and code compliance costs, then figuring what amount of investment could be supported by the rents which can realisticly be obtained and still leave some profit. I am not figuring Section 8 rents, which are pegged at 20% above market.
In other words, Toad, I think now might be a bad time to try and sell your home. Unless, of course, your street gets worse. Then that would be bad-er.
I ain’t goin’ nowhere.
Bank insurance inspector has visited the past two days, today he unboarded and went inside. Curious if they are going to write it off and demo or if it is going to continue to sit.
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