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	<title>Comments on: 42 Arch St</title>
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	<description>down and out with the city's vacants</description>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
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		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 22:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bank insurance inspector has visited the past two days, today he unboarded and went inside. Curious if they are going to write it off and demo or if it is going to continue to sit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bank insurance inspector has visited the past two days, today he unboarded and went inside. Curious if they are going to write it off and demo or if it is going to continue to sit.</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
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		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ain&#039;t goin&#039; nowhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ain&#8217;t goin&#8217; nowhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Stump Blankenship</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stump Blankenship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In other words, Toad, I think now might be a bad time to try and sell your home. Unless, of course, your street gets worse. Then that would be bad-er.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other words, Toad, I think now might be a bad time to try and sell your home. Unless, of course, your street gets worse. Then that would be bad-er.</p>
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		<title>By: Faust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The foreclosure process is a mess, the fact that property is left vacant and unattended and therefore is vandalized and stripped isn’t effective.&quot;

Usually it is effective, but assumes some demand for the property. Currently there are all sorts of &quot;back room&quot; problems. Most mortgages are insured and there are hoops to recover the insurance. I suspect many banks are waiting for the &quot;bail out&quot; of &quot;toxic mortgages&quot;. Barney Frank keeps hinting that the taxpayers will buy out the lenders. 

Worse, for so many years it was possible for anyone &quot;who could fog a mirror&quot; (banker&#039;s phrase) to get a mortgage. These mortgages were unrelated to actual values. So, &quot;values&quot; soared. This went on for so long that people began to believe these were the actual &quot;values&quot;. No one is willing to accept it was a &quot;bubble&quot; (read the history of the &quot;Tulip Mania&quot;). Most of the properties I see here have a &quot;real value&quot; of $20-50,000. I arrive at that by estimating renovation costs and code compliance costs, then figuring what amount of investment could be supported by the rents which can realisticly be obtained and still leave some profit. I am not figuring Section 8 rents, which are pegged at 20% above market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The foreclosure process is a mess, the fact that property is left vacant and unattended and therefore is vandalized and stripped isn’t effective.&#8221;</p>
<p>Usually it is effective, but assumes some demand for the property. Currently there are all sorts of &#8220;back room&#8221; problems. Most mortgages are insured and there are hoops to recover the insurance. I suspect many banks are waiting for the &#8220;bail out&#8221; of &#8220;toxic mortgages&#8221;. Barney Frank keeps hinting that the taxpayers will buy out the lenders. </p>
<p>Worse, for so many years it was possible for anyone &#8220;who could fog a mirror&#8221; (banker&#8217;s phrase) to get a mortgage. These mortgages were unrelated to actual values. So, &#8220;values&#8221; soared. This went on for so long that people began to believe these were the actual &#8220;values&#8221;. No one is willing to accept it was a &#8220;bubble&#8221; (read the history of the &#8220;Tulip Mania&#8221;). Most of the properties I see here have a &#8220;real value&#8221; of $20-50,000. I arrive at that by estimating renovation costs and code compliance costs, then figuring what amount of investment could be supported by the rents which can realisticly be obtained and still leave some profit. I am not figuring Section 8 rents, which are pegged at 20% above market.</p>
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		<title>By: Faust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The foreclosure process is a mess, the fact that property is left vacant and unattended and therefore is vandalized and stripped isn’t effective. If there are tenants in a property, they should continue to pay rent to the bank and keep the home occupied. 

I know of several instances (in Boston) where the bank allowed the owners to stay in 3 deckers and pay rent until it was sold. They also paid them a &quot;bonus&quot; for moving costs when they moved out.


I’m guessing that the furnace was stripped by the owner to try to recoup some of the investment he put into those properties (they were completely renovated a few years ago). Should be laws to punish this sort of behavior.

I suspect you are right about the owner. There are laws about this, the furnace belongs to the bank and it is theft. Law is like a wheelbarrow, if no one pushes it, it doesn&#039;t go anywhere. There is a problem about wittnesses and police departments don&#039;t see themselves as &quot;collection agencies&quot; (they love that phrase).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The foreclosure process is a mess, the fact that property is left vacant and unattended and therefore is vandalized and stripped isn’t effective. If there are tenants in a property, they should continue to pay rent to the bank and keep the home occupied. </p>
<p>I know of several instances (in Boston) where the bank allowed the owners to stay in 3 deckers and pay rent until it was sold. They also paid them a &#8220;bonus&#8221; for moving costs when they moved out.</p>
<p>I’m guessing that the furnace was stripped by the owner to try to recoup some of the investment he put into those properties (they were completely renovated a few years ago). Should be laws to punish this sort of behavior.</p>
<p>I suspect you are right about the owner. There are laws about this, the furnace belongs to the bank and it is theft. Law is like a wheelbarrow, if no one pushes it, it doesn&#8217;t go anywhere. There is a problem about wittnesses and police departments don&#8217;t see themselves as &#8220;collection agencies&#8221; (they love that phrase).</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
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		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The foreclosure process is a mess, the fact that property is left vacant and unattended and therefore is vandalized and stripped isn&#039;t effective. If there are tenants in a property, they should continue to pay rent to the bank and keep the home occupied. I&#039;m guessing that the furnace was stripped by the owner to try to recoup some of the investment he put into those properties (they were completely renovated a few years ago). Should be laws to punish this sort of behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The foreclosure process is a mess, the fact that property is left vacant and unattended and therefore is vandalized and stripped isn&#8217;t effective. If there are tenants in a property, they should continue to pay rent to the bank and keep the home occupied. I&#8217;m guessing that the furnace was stripped by the owner to try to recoup some of the investment he put into those properties (they were completely renovated a few years ago). Should be laws to punish this sort of behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Faust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So now we face another vacant, vandalized home and the families not receiving any of the protections from both the City and Federal law for tenants in foreclosed homes.&quot;

It is time we stop expecting the government to &quot;take care of us&quot;. Those are the same sort of people who took 5 days to get water to the stadium in New Orleans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So now we face another vacant, vandalized home and the families not receiving any of the protections from both the City and Federal law for tenants in foreclosed homes.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is time we stop expecting the government to &#8220;take care of us&#8221;. Those are the same sort of people who took 5 days to get water to the stadium in New Orleans.</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
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		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Neirinckx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Neirinckx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A sad sidenote, 48-50 Arch was just foreclosed. The tenants came home from shopping and found that someone has taken the boiler out and stripped some copper pipes out. So now we face another vacant, vandalized home and the families not receiving any of the protections from both the City and Federal law for tenants in foreclosed homes.
I have reached out to the lender but no news right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A sad sidenote, 48-50 Arch was just foreclosed. The tenants came home from shopping and found that someone has taken the boiler out and stripped some copper pipes out. So now we face another vacant, vandalized home and the families not receiving any of the protections from both the City and Federal law for tenants in foreclosed homes.<br />
I have reached out to the lender but no news right now.</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
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		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 00:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>city got this boarded &amp; cleaned up this weekend- office of neighborhood services is who can help with this kind of thing for anyone else trying to deal with a similar problem: http://www.providenceri.com/ons/index.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>city got this boarded &amp; cleaned up this weekend- office of neighborhood services is who can help with this kind of thing for anyone else trying to deal with a similar problem: <a href="http://www.providenceri.com/ons/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.providenceri.com/ons/index.php</a></p>
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